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Sean Bradford   on 17 March 2009 - 17:14 · 115 comments & 18468 views

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If you're an iPhone user, today's press conference debuting a preview of the upcoming iPhone software 3.0 is going to rock your world. Greg Joswiak took the stage and announced that Apple set a goal to sell 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008, and the company achieved much more than that by selling 13.7 million. He mentioned that the company now has sold more than 17 million units, with 25,000 applications with over 800 million downloads. 98% of the applications have been approved in seven days or less.

The next version of the iPhone operating system, now at version 3.0 is going to offer over 1,000 new APIs for developers, and deliver over 100 new features. The iPhone OS 3.0 will ship this summer and will be free to all iPhone 3G customers and even original iPhone users. There will be a $9.95 update charge for iPod touch users, sadly. So, who's ready for the newly announced features?
  • Copy and paste functionality.
  • Accessories can now talk with hardware.
  • Push notifications, huge plus compared to background applications in my opinion.
  • Landscape mode for Apple applications.
  • MMS text messaging, finally.
  • Search all applications via the new Spotlight
  • 3.0 now has a standard system for finding other devices in the same area without using a WiFi network. Other devices can now be found via Bluetooth with no pairing required.
  • Stereo Bluetooth is now supported
  • Anti-phishing now in Mobile Safari
  • Safari will also remember login credentials.
  • Parental controls extended to movies, TV shows, and application downloads.
  • Turn-by-Turn GPS for the Google Maps application.
  • There is a new Voice Memo application for iPhone.
  • There is also a new version of the media player that will automatically adjust the quality of the stream based on your connection to the network.
  • In-App Purchasing for App Store applications, demonstrated in EA's upcoming ‘The Sims 3' game for iPhone.
  • HDTV streaming for audio and video.
We think it's worth explaining how some features work to users.

Spotlight: The new Spotlight feature will have its own separate page on the devices home screen, which will sit to the left of all other pages. To get to it, simply swipe to go to the left and then enter what you wish to search for. From what we've seen, it's simple and easy.

In-App Purchasing: This is rather self-explanatory. In certain applications (mainly games) you'll be able to pay for items. For example, in The Sims 3, you can purchase items for your Sims, at $0.99 each.
All the other new additions are relatively self-explanatory.

There have been a lot of announcements today, and I'm sure you're wondering why Apple took so long to provide some of these features. Here are a few quotes from today's announcement:

"We were asked, why don't you do background processing? It's bad for the customer. It drains battery. We've been testing this, and running some background processes on some phones. We took a popular AIM client, and we just let go in the background -- then we measured the standby time. And it dropped by 80% or more."

"So, push. Preserves battery life, maintains performance, optimized for mobile networks."

"[Applications] 96% are approved, but there are things we have to watch out for. There have been issues, issues about content that's available to children for instance. But at the end of the day, we have a great solution that's working, and we're constantly making it better. We're tracking these numbers, and speaking with developers, and we are constantly doing that."

After the presentation, the Q&A began. Here are some quick highlights from the session:

Q: Flash? What are you doing?
A: We have no announcements on that topic today. But there are a lot of video streams we can handle. h.264 works great. We're adding HDTV streaming for audio and video. We think there's a lot of great video solutions for a single clip.

Q: Where do you stand on tethering?
A: Scott (explains tethering): We're supporting tethering in the client side, we're building that support in. We're working with our carriers around the world. We are building that support in.

Q : Are you addressing any of the lagginess with the new OS? We saw some of that when you loaded SMS up.
A: We're definitely addressing those issues. The units you saw today are demo units.

Q: Push notification, will you make uptime promises?
A: No.

Q: Why did copy paste take so long?
A: Scott: It's not that easy. There were security issues.

Overall I am very pleased with the updates that Apple is coming out with. As a Windows Mobile user, I myself have personally not given the iPhone a go because key features like MMS, C&P, and Push Notifications were not available on the iPhone. This major update is going to be a key player in the mobile phone arena. Microsoft and Windows Mobile has their work cut out for them. Overall I'm sure the millions of customers using the iPhone gives Apple a thumbs up, I do.

On a side not, there were a ton of new applications demoed today at this press event. Too many for us to list, so head over to Engadget for a look.

Kudos to Ars Technica and Engadget for the live blogging. Neowin reporter Sam Symons contributed to this article

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(3 replies) #1 Marshalus on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:19
Is there a live video feed somewhere?
#1.1 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:22
Marshalus said,
Is there a live video feed somewhere?

Don't think so.
#1.2 GreyWolfSC on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:23
Engadget seems to have live photos, but I don't see a video feed anywhere.
#1.3 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:26
GreyWolfSC said,
Engadget seems to have live photos, but I don't see a video feed anywhere.

Yeah, for Apple events, I don't think allow live videos; they usually just have a QuickTime movie up about an hour or so after it's finished, on Apple's site
(1 reply) #2 Prince17 on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:28
Its brilliant
#2.1 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:20
I would disagree. Background programs are still essential if you want to do any real work on a phone.
#3 vetSHoTTa35 on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:32
Sounds good to me. I like the current iPhone but still haven't gotten one yet because it's hasn't grabbed me yet. With some extra stuff added in i might take a closer look
(4 replies) #4 TheNGTV on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:41
It's bad for the customer. It drains battery.



Wow. Thanks for giving me the surefire ticket to Windows Mobile 7, Apple. I decide what I wanna run.
#4.1 Thecreativeone on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:08
Well, it is. Even on windows mobile
#4.2 Silverskull on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:58
Thecreativeone said,
Well, it is. Even on windows mobile

Eh. On Windows Mobile, the user can decide whether to run apps in the background or not. If you want to, understanding that it will drain the battery faster, leave it open. If not, close it. Choice is good.
#4.3 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:21
Yea, background programs are very important, like copying a passage from an online source and then pasting it into Word all on your phone.
#4.4 Shetland on 18 Mar 2009 - 11:19
andrewbares said,
Yea, background programs are very important, like copying a passage from an online source and then pasting it into Word all on your phone.

that works now. that's the whole point of copy+paste.
you can visit a website, copy a passage and paste it into any other application.
(2 replies) #5 rm20010 on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:50
"We were asked, why don't you do background processing? It's bad for the customer. It drains battery. We've been testing this, and running some background processes on some phones. We took a popular AIM client, and we just let go in the background -- then we measured the standby time. And it dropped by 80% or more."

Hmm... maybe that client, in fact probably every single iPhone app, wasn't programmed to run with lower CPU priority while in the background because no apps on the iPhone are supposed to do that yet. Wonder what Palm has to say on this?

Also bear in mind that in WebOS the cards keep repainting even while shuffling through them while the iPhone OS has to snap a screenshot to animate the window zooming out. If the Pre can still manage more battery life over the iPhone, Apple's doing something wrong here.
#5.1 TheNGTV on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:56
rm20010 said,
Also bear in mind that in WebOS the cards keep repainting even while shuffling through them while the iPhone OS has to snap a screenshot to animate the window zooming out. If the Pre can still manage more battery life over the iPhone, Apple's doing something wrong here.



Keep in mind that the Pre's CPU is ~1.4-1.5x faster. And it has an even more advanced GPU.

Fast does not mean power-hungry, though. There used to be a correlation, but the Pre might definitely buck it.
#5.2 Beastage on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:45
iPhone 3 (the hardware) supposed to be out this summer they can't update the hardware?!

Apple like milking this stuff basically selling a 2yo phone.
(5 replies) #6 Richard Hammond on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:52
No copy and paste, good old Kevin Rose full of s*** as usual, the guy is a tool i dont know why people even care what he says.
#6.1 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:59
Richard Hammond said,
No copy and paste, good old Kevin Rose full of s*** as usual, the guy is a tool i dont know why people even care what he says.

Keep in mind they're going over developers and their benefits first; I'm sure C&P will be coming
#6.2 Stetson on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:01
One of the new APIs that was up on the screen briefly was "text selection". I wonder what that could be used for? :-p
#6.3 Richard Hammond on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:06
Ah well ignore me i eat humble pie they just announced it.
#6.4 Thecreativeone on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:09
Richard Hammond said,
Ah well ignore me i eat humble pie they just announced it.


lol. Keep in mind this is a live feed, so anything could happen...
#6.5 ilaugh on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:47
Copy/paste has been confirmed.
(2 replies) #7 barteh on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:58
So you can connect to other bluetooth hardware, but is there the file transfer profile?
#7.1 +TCLN Ryster on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:35
There certainly isn't in 2.x firmware, which I was shocked at. Bluetooth is even hidden away in the settings menu. I wanted to send a video to a friend with a Sony Ericcson and couldn't find any way to do it. Hopefully 3.x will bring the iphone up to par with other phones in all the right aspects.
#7.2 ilaugh on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:49
TCLN Ryster said,
There certainly isn't in 2.x firmware, which I was shocked at. Bluetooth is even hidden away in the settings menu. I wanted to send a video to a friend with a Sony Ericcson and couldn't find any way to do it. Hopefully 3.x will bring the iphone up to par with other phones in all the right aspects.

You couldn't find a way to send the video to your friend? I thought it had a "send via" capability.
(3 replies) #8 +Mr_Baby on 17 Mar 2009 - 17:58
lame a** update, probably something mainly to prevent jailbreaking or unlocking with current methods.
#8.1 barteh on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:03
I dont think you could be more wrong...
Clicky

Neowins post doesnt contain anything useful really.
#8.2 Thecreativeone on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:10
Mr_Baby said,
lame a** update, probably something mainly to prevent jailbreaking or unlocking with current methods.


What do you expect? Flashy hardware, cartoon UI? please.... this is so you dont have to jailbreak, (whitch I'm glad apple wants stopped, people are lazzy)
#8.3 Sean Bradford on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:25
barteh said,
I dont think you could be more wrong...
Clicky

Neowins post doesnt contain anything useful really.


Probably because at the time, we were updating as the news was coming from the live blogs. Article is completely updated now .
#9 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:04
Copy and paste has been announced.
(2 replies) #10 eliteCommander on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:20
finaly copy & paste, and now MMS!
#10.1 chisss on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:25
and now Kevin Rose can suck his own dick... according to him MMS was confirmed to not make it... he's an ass and I don't know why people make news about his predictions... they are as accurate as GW Bush's prediction on the war timeframe...
#10.2 DomZ on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:41
His Copy and Paste predition was SPOT ON, he even explained how it would work exactly how they demoed it. From what I saw of the live Kevin Rose clip, he looked like he didn't want to give up too much information as to mess up his source, and also as if it was a brief conversation with his source.
(1 reply) #11 TonyLock on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:25
What about a SEARCH option in MUSIC?
#11.1 dimithrak on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:38
Yes.. its there.. I was following the live blog.. they've included spotlight.. spotlight also works within the iPod application..
(4 replies) #12 GreyWolfSC on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:27
Sounds like some definite improvements! Will be the iPod Touch be able to share the love? (I'm assuming they're basically the same device minus the telephone part.)
#12.1 dimithrak on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:40
GreyWolfSC said,
Sounds like some definite improvements! Will be the iPod Touch be able to share the love? (I'm assuming they're basically the same device minus the telephone part.)



The iPod touch gets everything in the new OS.. for $9.99.. but the iPhone Gen 1 will not get MMS and Stereo bluetooth . ah who cares.. hehe

This is what happened in the Q& A

Q: Is there a physical hardware problem on the first-gen iPhone that prevents it from doing MMS.
A: It’s a different radio, so it is a physical issue.

Last edited by dimithrak on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:46
#12.2 GreyWolfSC on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:28
I didn't expect MMS, I was already assuming it was a cell protocol. You could handle that with e-mail or IMs I guess.
#12.3 One Voice on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:49
GreyWolfSC said,
I didn't expect MMS, I was already assuming it was a cell protocol. You could handle that with e-mail or IMs I guess.


Nothing like getting OOo's and Aaahs from an audience for finally implementing a standard technology on a 2 year old platform.
#12.4 GreyWolfSC on 18 Mar 2009 - 03:17
I wouldn't have wanted it anyway. Free IMs via free WiFi hotspots would work for me. I try not to travel w/my friends in my pocket.
(5 replies) #13 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:30
So, who thinks Kevin Rose is hating himself now?
#13.1 dimithrak on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:40
Sam Symons Live said,
So, who thinks Kevin Rose is hating himself now?


+1
#13.2 dimithrak on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:40
Sam Symons Live said,
So, who thinks Kevin Rose is hating himself now?


+1
#13.3 Tikitiki on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:46
Sam Symons Live said,
So, who thinks Kevin Rose is hating himself now?


-1
#13.4 eliteCommander on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:53
Sam Symons Live said,
So, who thinks Kevin Rose is hating himself now?

+1
#13.5 Raa on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:43
+2
(5 replies) #14 Julius Caro on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:46
Why dont the old iphones get MMS?
#14.1 solgae on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:50
Radio is different from iPhone 3G.
#14.2 profets on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:30
solgae said,
Radio is different from iPhone 3G.


is the iphone 1st gen radio different from cellphones over the past 8 years that can do MMS?
#14.3 Julius Caro on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:16
Julius Caro said,
Why dont the old iphones get MMS?


does it need a special radio? i mean it thought MMS required AT LEAST gprs? which the old iphone has
#14.4 MrA on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:27
Julius Caro said,
does it need a special radio? i mean it thought MMS required AT LEAST gprs? which the old iphone has

It probably needs a baseband update to do properly (a.k.a. according to spec), and Apple's either too lazy to do it, or thinks the 1st Gen is too old to support a baseband update.

EDIT: One has to remember that Apple's engineering resources are much, much smaller than say MS, and most if not all the radio engineers are probably working on the next-gen iPhone.
#14.5 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:26
A FREE phone from two years ago has MMS!!! Come on, we all know that the iPhone should have MMS. Apple just likes being different and doing things with their own standards.
#15 vetSHoTTa35 on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:54
Well maybe it will be time for me to use that upgrade i've been saving for a iPhone "3.0" (whatever the next version is gonna be called). I can get a 3G now for $99 and even though i'll finally get MMS and Copy/Paste i figured might as well wait for the next irritation to get the latest and greatest
(3 replies) #16 MillionVoltss on 17 Mar 2009 - 18:54
Release date ?
#16.1 vetSHoTTa35 on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:00
i guess the said June is when it's coming out. Guess we'll see, only like 3 months away. !!
#16.2 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:06
MillionVoltss said,
Release date ?

"Summer", apparently.
#16.3 PsykX on 20 Mar 2009 - 14:15
Yeah, Summer is what I heard. End of June is a good bet IMO, this update will come along with a brand new iPhone (new hardware), which should be able to record videos (there are 2 proofs in the new iPhone OS) finally.
#17 Sean Bradford on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:20
Article extensively updated

(3 replies) #18 mafutha on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:22
As an Ipod Touch user I don't mind the $9.95 fee if it means a better running ipod. I love the touch (2G version) and use it every day. I hope it's release is soon......
#18.1 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:28
You honestly shouldn't have to pay $9.95, especially when it's little things like that.

Zunes from 3 years ago all have the same new software features and we didn't have to pay a cent for the two major updates that they did. Also, the Zune updates were significantly greater than just some copy/paste and login credentials.

Apple just wants the extra money, simple as that.
#18.2 Raa on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:44
I feel I shouldn't have to pay considering I bought a Touch 3 months ago. Bit poor, but hey, I can deal with it...
#18.3 dp123 on 17 Mar 2009 - 23:49
You do realize that the iPod Touch/iPhone can now do peer-to-peer across apps and documents. i.e multi-player games, apps, file sharing... Your Zune just took a sh!t on itself before slicing it's wrists. Just because you can't read past one sentence doesn't make this a minor update.
#19 joemailey on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:28
I can't wait for this release. June is only 3months away
Just shame wee're all so excited over a piece of software. That provides features alot of other phones do by default lol
#20 M. I. Wright on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:28
irritation lol. Don't wait, get that checked out immediately!
(1 reply) #21 Digix on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:33
lol so not paying for this garbage.
#21.1 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:29
+1 that's why I don't buy apple.
#22 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:42
The 3.0 beta is up now, developers
(3 replies) #23 MillionVoltss on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:44
Link.
#23.1 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:50
MillionVoltss said,
Link.

http://www.developer.apple.com/ if you can get onto it...as you can imagine, demand is rather high.
#23.2 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:30
Demand? For some little new features like copy/paste? Are they for real?
#23.3 timster on 18 Mar 2009 - 20:57
the demand is from developers making apps for OS 3.0 and tweaking current apps to work on 3.0
(3 replies) #24 rayjin on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:46
Anyone know if the iPod Touch 2G will carry 3.0 firmware when it's released or will it still be an $9.95 upgrade?
#24.1 Sam Symons Live on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:48
rayjin said,
Anyone know if the iPod Touch 2G will carry 3.0 firmware when it's released or will it still be an $9.95 upgrade?

I own an iPod touch 2G If they release a new one this year, it'll have 3.0 firmware, I think.
#24.2 +Xerxes on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:37
If the firmware 2.0 update was anything to go by, no it won't. I'm was actually pretty annoyed about that, bought my 1G Touch ages ago and 2.0 had been out for some time yet my Touch came with 1.0 and I had to pay extra to get 2.0, how stingy is that?? chances are even well after the release of 3.0, 2G Touches will still ship with 2.0 and you'll have to pay to upgrade, Apple are pretty good at screwing over the Touch users.
#24.3 .Reo on 18 Mar 2009 - 20:36
Xerxes said,
If the firmware 2.0 update was anything to go by, no it won't. I'm was actually pretty annoyed about that, bought my 1G Touch ages ago and 2.0 had been out for some time yet my Touch came with 1.0 and I had to pay extra to get 2.0, how stingy is that?? chances are even well after the release of 3.0, 2G Touches will still ship with 2.0 and you'll have to pay to upgrade, Apple are pretty good at screwing over the Touch users.

That's probably because you got one from stock. Any iPod touch from the online Apple Store shipped with version 2.0 the day it was released.
#25 +macf13nd on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:48
this update looks pretty good if you ask me.
(1 reply) #26 Gabe3 on 17 Mar 2009 - 19:57
when will we get details about the new iphone because it should come out when 3.0 comes out.
#26.1 Sean Bradford on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:07
Gabe3 said,
when will we get details about the new iphone because it should come out when 3.0 comes out.


Should be an announcement pretty soon on that .
(2 replies) #27 Am_I_Evil on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:02
this ipod touch upgrade fee bull**** is starting to get a little annoying
#27.1 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:31
Am_I_Evil said,
this ipod touch upgrade fee bull**** is starting to get a little annoying


Yea, maybe we could boycot Apple so that they stop doing upgrade fees!
#27.2 PsykX on 20 Mar 2009 - 14:17
Look, I'm also irritated that iPhone users get it for free and we don't. But apparently there's a law saying if you don't have a contract or anything, you can't get new features. iPhone users have a contract and we, iPod users, don't.

Btw there's always a way to get around that, but it usually goes beyond my skills. $10 isn't reaklly expensive for everything it adds, I remember back in the time, when they decide to include the original iPhone apps into the iPod, they would charge $20. I felt totally ripped of this time.

Explanations here : http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/01/17/ap...ifi_fee_update/
It justifies the fee for the U.S. only though.

Last edited by PsykX on 20 Mar 2009 - 14:23
#28 Cask1 on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:18
well almost a year after the iPhone 3G launch, it will be to the acceptable level of usability it should've been since the beginning. Guess Apple felt threatened by the Pre, Android and other competing options.
#29 -Vivicidal- on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:22
Check the title
(2 replies) #30 +Xerxes on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:33
Well Apple can get screwed, I'm not paying for a update other users get for free (N) I'm sticking to 2.2 on my Touch thank you.
#30.1 solgae on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:49
While I agree that I don't really get the whole pay-for-upgrade for touch users, unlocking bluetooth and addition of A2DP support for 2G iPod Touch may be worth dropping $10 for it.

Of course, I don't get to worry about it since I own an iPhone 3G.
#30.2 PsykX on 20 Mar 2009 - 14:18
@Xerxes : Read my comment above. Apple HAS to charge it to obbey the law. They decided 10 bucks was a good price.
#31 JonathanMarston on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:42
After this update I might actually consider getting an iPhone since its getting the basic features that my previous 3 non-smart phones had (if you classify smart phones the same way AT&T does - which is qwerty keyboard or touch-screen). Unfortunately for Apple they're a little too late and I won't be up for an upgrade for another 16 months...
#32 WhoTheF on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:44
I bet they're gonna screw us up on MMS rates here in the U.S. Good old AT&T.
#33 Sphinx Myth on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:50
Kevin Rose is such a Loser.
#34 wellslogan on 17 Mar 2009 - 20:50
The LOST Reference in one of the emails had me sold immediately... also very glad that I'll be able to get this for free.
#35 +chrismaddern on 17 Mar 2009 - 21:42
For anyone getting the HTTP/1.1 Service Unavailable issue, you can workaround it using http://www.blogitech.co.uk/2009/get-access...iphone-30-beta/
#36 andrewbares on 17 Mar 2009 - 22:32
I'd rather get a Palm Pre or stay with my WinMo phone.
#37 bluarash on 17 Mar 2009 - 23:10
Finally, with copy & paste support we can finally get a copy of Docs to Go for the iphone OS platform.
#38 MulletRobZ on 18 Mar 2009 - 00:07
Glad to hear Apple finally caught on with Push Notifications and MMS. (can't wait to try those new features on my iPhone 3G)

Now the only thing left they absolutely need to do is to upgrade the darned camera when they introduce the new hardware in June! After all, 2.0 megapixels and no flash simply will not do anymore!
#39 +Ricardo Gil on 18 Mar 2009 - 00:13
Although I couldn't care less about MMS, why isn't it enabled in the 2G iPhone? MMS messages get sent through either GPRS or 3G, and I know the 2G iPhone handles GPRS, so what gives?
(4 replies) #40 DanielZ on 18 Mar 2009 - 01:14
Sucks that there's a $9.95 upgrade fee for iPod Touch owners. Apple is really ramming us in the arse with a steel pole on this one. Oh well. (snipped out a sentence - rm20010) Cheers!

Last edited by rm20010 on 18 Mar 2009 - 04:11
#40.1 ]SK[ on 18 Mar 2009 - 12:37
If I was you, just don't rush into paying for a firmware upgrade. I didn't with v2 on my old touch and it paid off
#40.2 timster on 18 Mar 2009 - 16:40
who pays for firmwarez?
#40.3 DanielZ on 18 Mar 2009 - 20:17
SK[ said,]If I was you, just don't rush into paying for a firmware upgrade. I didn't with v2 on my old touch and it paid off


I have to disagree with you there. I bought my 1st gen iPod Touch with the 1.x firmware, and as soon as 2.0 came out, I obtained it. It was much better, because even the first 2.x version was way more stable. When I bought my iPod, it would crash like 4-5 times a day (mostly with Safari). After I upgraded to 2.0, I barely got any crashes. So I have my hopes pretty high for the 3.0 firmware.
#40.4 PsykX on 20 Mar 2009 - 14:20
@Danielz : You also need to read my comment above. Apple HAS to charge for it and they decided $10 was a reasonable price.
(1 reply) #41 GreyWolfSC on 18 Mar 2009 - 03:18
Is there an iPhone emulator with the SDK?
#41.1 lunamonkey on 18 Mar 2009 - 12:09
GreyWolfSC said,
Is there an iPhone emulator with the SDK?


From the dev site : "Includes the Xcode IDE, iPhone simulator, and a suite of tools for developing applications for iPhone and iPod touch."
(2 replies) #42 +Techno_Funky on 18 Mar 2009 - 04:51
So I can get Os 3.0 on my 1Genaration iPod Touch ... rite .. ?
#42.1 ]SK[ on 18 Mar 2009 - 12:38
It's for 1st gen iPhones so I would imagine so.
#42.2 Sam Symons Live on 18 Mar 2009 - 18:19
Techno_Funky said,
So I can get Os 3.0 on my 1Genaration iPod Touch ... rite .. ?

You sure can; I have the beta running on my iPod touch 1G... it works well.
#43 +Chicane-UK on 18 Mar 2009 - 08:39
Sounds like a really good upgrade for iPhone 3G customers. I can't wait to try it!
#44 Navan on 18 Mar 2009 - 10:05
Can't wait to update my iPod Touch 2G! xD
(2 replies) #45 Clueless Fox on 18 Mar 2009 - 12:53
stupid question but would sending/receiving MMS count as part of the data plan or is it separate from that like text messaging?
#45.1 KeR on 18 Mar 2009 - 16:09
Clueless Fox said,
stupid question but would sending/receiving MMS count as part of the data plan or is it separate from that like text messaging?



I don't think it will, I think AT&T charges extra for it....they charge for everything.
#45.2 tylershaw on 19 Mar 2009 - 18:47
That wouldn't fall under the texting plans that they have? If not then I would HOPE that it falls under their data plan.
(1 reply) #46 timster on 18 Mar 2009 - 16:50
well, a day after the preview and the SDK for devs is already 'out there' (as in, on sites other than Apple). don't be getting your panties all up in a bunch rushing to find it as it can only be used with a iphone developer account and locks down the phone to "testing" mode.

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk.html
#46.1 Sam Symons Live on 18 Mar 2009 - 18:21
timster said,
well, a day after the preview and the SDK for devs is already 'out there' (as in, on sites other than Apple). don't be getting your panties all up in a bunch rushing to find it as it can only be used with a iphone developer account and locks down the phone to "testing" mode.

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk.html

Yeap; after I had installed the firmware, I had to log in to my developer account via iTunes in order for it to turn on fully.
#47 blachole on 18 Mar 2009 - 19:08
When did Apple say that they would offer "Turn-by-Turn GPS for the Google Maps application"???

I thought Apple said they would allow Turn-by-turn, but the developer would NOT be able to use the maps API that includes the Google Maps due to licensing issues and would have to provide their own maps?
(1 reply) #48 Max™ on 18 Mar 2009 - 21:18
I think Apple are fully justified in charging $9.99 for an OS upgrade. You will pay for the new OS X Snow Leopard thats arriving shortly, so why not an OS upgrade for your phone? I will probably get an iPhone when the new hardware revision is released in Summer and won't mind paying another $9.99 for OS 4.0 when it arrives next year.
#48.1 chuvak317 on 18 Mar 2009 - 23:18
Those with iPhones do not have to pay for the upgrade. Only iPod Touch owners have to pay for the upgrade
#49 emzino on 18 Mar 2009 - 23:55
I will also purchase the iPhone in the summer when it comes with the new hardware revision which i'm looking forward to.

All these updates plus more in the future will demand more power from the phone so it's only right it gets a little workout to get more muscle, hence the predicted hardware revision in the summer.

I just hope it is also released as a Pay As You Go phone only option in the UK!

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