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Google: No such thing as complete privacy

James7   via cnet.com on 31 July 2008 - 06:41 · 21 comments & 7546 views

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Google's Street View service didn't invade a Pittsburgh couple's privacy, the search giant said in a response to the couple's April lawsuit over the matter.

"Plaintiffs' privacy claims fail, among other reasons, because the view of a home from the driveway that can be seen by any visitor, delivery person, or telephone repairman is not private," the company said in response to the suit, according to a copy posted at The Smoking Gun. Google seeks to dismiss the claim in its filing.

"Today's satellite-image technology means that...complete privacy does not exist," Google said in its response to the complaint. "Plaintiffs live in the 21st century United States, where every step upon private property is not deemed by law to be an actionable trespass...Unless there is a clear expression such as a gate, fence, or 'keep out' sign indicating that the public is not permitted to enter, anyone may approach a home by a walkway, driveway, or any other route commonly used by visitors, without liability for trespass."

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(4 replies) #1 plastikaa on 31 Jul 2008 - 07:03
So to not have googole upload pictures of our house we have to put up an 8 foot fence with big signs warning off google... else yes they will take pictures.
#1.1 39 Thieves on 31 Jul 2008 - 07:34
Or, they'll attempt to bribe gate guards at military bases to let them on, so they can map every street and address.

And yes, they've tried. Many times.
#1.2 TruckWEB on 31 Jul 2008 - 11:13
Don't forget to deploy a huge tent to cover up your house/lot because with Google Earth, they take picture from SAT, so they can see everything from above....

So not only you need a high fence, but you need something to cover your hole house.

Privacy is a word on it's way out of the dictionary.
#1.3 cardg on 31 Jul 2008 - 15:32
I wonder if Orwell had named his book 2010 instead of 1984.
#1.4 +Dakkaroth on 01 Aug 2008 - 00:21
lol, you guys have fun doing that. I'll simply be like,"Oh, TruckWEB lives there."
(5 replies) #2 boho on 31 Jul 2008 - 08:17
I remember the first time I controlled a U.S. computer using FTP command line, it seemed like magic. Now we can make IP video phone calls across the world - for almost nothing. Technology has made the world much smaller, there is little sense of adventure left, which is a shame.

This is the price we have to pay We should be more worried about how our government , and big corporations intend to enslave us to a very few rich banking families, not worrying about a photos on the Internet. Welcome "The New World Order" Most people are in total denial or ignorance - wake-up before it's too late!
#2.1 PureLegend on 31 Jul 2008 - 08:18
Enslave? Umm...how?
#2.2 Airlink on 31 Jul 2008 - 08:30
Tin-foil hat much?
#2.3 Angry_Badger on 31 Jul 2008 - 10:18
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
#2.4 C_Guy on 31 Jul 2008 - 14:24
THANK YOU GOD for sending BOHO to warn us! Don't let the paranoia wagon pass you by! Quick, jump on!!!
#2.5 Danielx714 on 31 Jul 2008 - 19:30
(boho said @ #2)
I remember the first time I controlled a U.S. computer using FTP command line, it seemed like magic. Now we can make IP video phone calls across the world - for almost nothing. Technology has made the world much smaller, there is little sense of adventure left, which is a shame.

+1 on the lack of adventure
(3 replies) #3 PureLegend on 31 Jul 2008 - 08:17
What is the point in Street View? Will it help me find things better or something?
#3.1 +mad_onion on 31 Jul 2008 - 09:52
it's so you can look around somewhere beofre you actually go somewhere or travel a route before you do so you know where to go.
#3.2 sreteP on 31 Jul 2008 - 10:33
(mad_onion said @ #3.1)
it's so you can look around somewhere beofre you actually go somewhere or travel a route before you do so you know where to go.


And for tewwowists to plan their attack more effectlively, MMM'KAY! I DONT HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTWUCTION!
#3.3 draklin on 31 Jul 2008 - 12:37
(sreteP said @ #3.2)
(mad_onion said @ #3.1)
it's so you can look around somewhere beofre you actually go somewhere or travel a route before you do so you know where to go.


And for tewwowists to plan their attack more effectlively, MMM'KAY! I DONT HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTWUCTION!


Yeah, coz it's not like they couldn't, you know, just drive by sometime and look.
#4 +MetalHellsAngel on 31 Jul 2008 - 13:51
How can you be invading someone's privacy when your only looking at what you would see if you we're standing on the street in front of the house anyway???? It doesn't make any sense to me.

(draklin said @ #3.3)
Yeah, coz it's not like they couldn't, you know, just drive by sometime and look.


Not if your going somewhere far away like on a vacation or something.....
(2 replies) #5 C_Guy on 31 Jul 2008 - 14:30
I love how Google tries to justify it's total mockery of privacy.

Lie: "Today's satellite-image technology means that...complete privacy does not exist,"
Truth: Google's mockery of privacy, including reading Gmail messages and monitoring search behavior means that... complete privacy does not exist. How else can they enhance (oops, I mean, sell advertising! your Internet "experience"?

Lie: Every step upon private property is not deemed by law to be an actionable trespass.
Truth: Perhaps Google should hire a layer that knows what trespassing means. Or they could buy a dictionary, that would work, too. By their own logic, you could walk into a store, take a chocolate bar, walk out, and when the cops come just say "There was no sign so I didn't know I couldn't steal". Trespassing is trespassing, whether there is a fence, gate, or sign.

Google's distorted view of the law, privacy, and the world is truly laughable. What's in their water fountains anyway? Whatever it is they should share it with the rest of us
#5.1 dysmatik on 31 Jul 2008 - 18:59
I agree. One must almost assume that "it's not a matter of will my privacy be violated, but a matter of when?" It happened to A0L, what makes you think it can't happen to G00GLE? I've heard them say it's a matter of trust,.....but seriously, how often to you trust someone you don't even know? I find a lot of the internet (not just Google) becoming more and more intrusive to it's users while the users have NO idea what's happening. Kinda like the NSAt&t stuff. Majority of the "average" home users (usually none-geek) don't even have a clue that web activities are being kept or logged by some of these services. And mass distribution of everyone's property/street-photos is pretty bad considering it's being done without consent.
#5.2 +Dakkaroth on 01 Aug 2008 - 00:44
Definitely not just Google. Let's not forget anything Google does, Microsoft is following not too far behind to compete. Google and Microsoft both have their "Earth" images free for all to see. I've found both of them to be very useful though. I really don't see how a picture of my house could really invade my privacy any more than a phone book. You have to pay I believe if you don't want yourself in the phone book though. Can you imagine how much heat Google or Microsoft would get though if they charged you to have your house removed? A picture of a house is just a picture of a house to me. Now, when you put my identity along with my address, THAT is something I do not like and would be very concerned about.

Meanwhile though, Micros- no, Steve Ballmer wants you to believe that Google has an extreme number of people out to read messages on Gmail so they can put an ad on the side that's maybe only 50% accurate. Let's not forget that no one else hears of this outside Google because Google's entire workforce somehow keep it a secret, yet Steve Ballmer is the only one to find out. He's either got spies within the company, is a master detective, or is quite possibly bulls---ing everyone to sling mud into the face of his competitor.

It's all bulls--- though if you want to get into what company exec said what. They're all out to sling mud and get you to buy their product or use their service. If you're willing to believe everything Ballmer, Jobs, or whatever company exec feeds you (don't know the names of the Google guys so...), you probably shouldn't be worried so much about privacy as you should your education.
#6 ajua on 31 Jul 2008 - 17:19
At least Google should pay a tax or something to be able to capture photos like in Street View.

I can understand what Google is saying but is totally true that everyone's privacy is at concern whit sat imagery. When the sat images can get really close to map everything, any given person won't be able to walk naked (just an example) in their backyard/pool without worrying if someone is watching...
#7 Airlink on 31 Jul 2008 - 23:53
If you want complete privacy then dig a grave and bury yourself in it. I promise I won't come and visit.

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