It has been reported that Google will stop issuing new UK subscribers with a @gmail.com address, and will, instead issue a @googlemail.com address. This is following a trademark dispute between a London based firm, who had been using the term Gmail two years before Google introduced their free mail system.
London-based Independent International Investment Research had talks with Google after a similar trademark dispute in Germany forced Google to stop using the Gmail name there. It has been rumoured that IIIR had asked Google for an “exorbitant sum” of money, which would have stopped IIIR from taking further action. The proposal was rejected by Google.
The change will take place from Wednesday, only affecting new users to Google’s email service.
View: Google Mail
London-based Independent International Investment Research had talks with Google after a similar trademark dispute in Germany forced Google to stop using the Gmail name there. It has been rumoured that IIIR had asked Google for an “exorbitant sum” of money, which would have stopped IIIR from taking further action. The proposal was rejected by Google.
The change will take place from Wednesday, only affecting new users to Google’s email service.
View: Google Mail
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Last edited by 22280 on 19 Oct 2005 - 17:32
LanMan874
Article says mail is also treated the same
Do I have to register two account to stop someone else registering myname@googlemail.co.uk ?
Granted that big businesses may know about gmail, but does the average joe know about this stock market tool?
If another company had a trademark in some other country, though luck for google. They should have done their research and trademarked before they released their product.
What probably did happen is that they saw some small company in UK has it and they didn't care. Except this company is demanding insane amounts of money to release the trademark... same with the german company
The London-based research firm, with a £3.24m ($5.6m) stockmarket value, says it has used the name "Gmail" since 2002 to describe the mail function of its online information tool Pronet, mainly used by investors in currency derivatives.
Companies like Citigroup, Deutsche Bank and Bank of America are among the British firm's clients.
I'd hardly say "some small company in UK "
That's pigeon**** compared to the companies they have as clients (and a heel of a lot of companies in UK). You can win more than that on the weekly lottery. They're greedy arseholes anyway, wanting about 10 times their market value just for a name that everybody already associates with Google. That exorbitant valuation was made last December, when it was obvious that things beginning with G implied Google (like things beginning with i, or easy imply Apple and Easy Group respectively), so the valuation itself was flawed.
why'd it take the "london firm" this long to notice.
But this is still a real pain. Better not make existing users have to change to @googlemail.com
As in the UK arn't we just using the USA site gmail.com????
Therefore email sent to our address is going to a server in the US, and UK patents/trademarks etc don't count over the pond
all my accounts on websites, stores etc.. that have "@gmail.com" as my email address will google forward all my emails to @googlemail.com when they switch over :| NOOOOO
this sucks if they dont!
This really isn't a big deal, move along.
Neowin: "Google Forced to DROP Gmail in UK" - I don't think that's exactly what happened, but thanks for the heart attack.
Slashdot: "Gmail Becomes Google Mail in the UK" - Precisely.
ZDNet: "Google gives up on Gmail name in UK" - Accurate.
Reuters.uk: "Google cedes Gmail name in trademark dispute" - Correct.
Addict3d.org: "Google forced to rename Gmail"
Macworld UK: "Google dumps Gmail name in UK"
Why am I ranting? I think the author did this intentionally to draw concerned people to the article, only to find the title is bogus.
read them, including headlines
Back on topic, the mix between @gmail and @googlemail will definetely confuse a few users... Google should make their mind, it's either one or the other, but not both! Bad news for them.
If you already have an account, you WILL NOT BE AFFECTED!!!!!!!!
Learn to read people.
Unfortunately, we don't know. We would love to say that your address will always remain the same. But the trademark issue is still unsettled, and unfortunately, we cannot predict what the other party or the courts might do here. You can always use your same username with an @googlemail.com address to avoid this issue later on. But trust that we will do the best we can to make sure your email address won't ever have to change.
Looks like we may lose it then.
i have an @gmail.com account; its on my cv, i use it at work etc everyone knows it.
when google mail, gmail, whatever finally goes out of beta; does this mean my addresses will suddenly change from gmail to googlemail? or will it happen behind the scenes and i can still give people my @gmail.com account only that it wont exist but simply act as a background forwader to my @googlemail.com account, which i wont actually give anyone?
see what i mean?
Can't UK users just sign up to gmail.com once googlemail is up and running...
or will gmail.com redirect to googlemail ?
or will gmail.com redirect to googlemail ?
The site will determine what country your IP originates from and sign you up to the appropriate site I guess.
When I go to create a new account, it displays the username as [your choice] @googlemail.com
Can anyone here confirm if this is for ALL new users? ..for only for users who are creating new accounts in the UK?
ie can anyone outside of the UK test by going to gmail.com to confirm the logo etc for GMail or Googlemail, and also could anyone outside of the UK please check if a new account created is defaulted to googlemail.com or gmail.com?
Was only the other day I was going to create a new gmail.. now this.. coincidink
You can still display your address as whatever@gmail.com even if it is a googlemail.com address because gmail forwards it.
make it better google!
will their share price rise as investors start predicting Google trying for an out of court settlement?
Interesting times ahead
It's all asthetic, really.
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