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10.20GHz Intel Nehalem slated for 2005

Arnaudt   on 29 January 2003 - 17:39 · 37 comments & 5190 views

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Inclement weather on this side of the Atlantic ocean threw a turquoise parakeet off course today and a note it was holding in its beak fell into the INQUIRER's back garden. The contents of the note appear to reveal future plans for future Intel desktop processors right up until 2005.

By then, according to the note, Intel will be able to deliver 10.20GHz desktop CPUs codenamed "Nehalem" and produced using 65 nanometer technology. If Intel manages to migrate away from the 90 nanometer technology it will introduce towards the end of this year, by then the "Prescott" core will deliver at least 5.20GHz using the 800MHz system bus.

The immediate successor to Prescott after it tops out at 5.20GHz will be the "Tejas" core, also produced on a 90 nanometer process and delivering 5.60GHz using a 1066MHz system bus. That's slated to start appearing towards the end of 2004. Tejas will increase in steady increments which appear to be 6GHz, 6.40GHz, 6.80GHz, 7.20GHz, 7.60GHz, 7GHz, 8.40GHz, 8.80GHz and topping out at 9.20GHz. The first Nehalem is supposed to appear at 9.60GHz before Intel succeeds in its goal to produce a 10GHz+ chip, the Nehalem, and using a 1200MHz front side bus.

News source: The inq.


"Yes it will be included with Beta 2," Microsoft beta coordinator Tom Oliver wrote in an Office 11 newsgroup posting. "You can get more information on the product from here http://www.microsoft.com/office/onenote/. You do *not* need to signup there. You will get it if you are on the Office beta."

Microsoft began accepting nominations for the second Office 11 beta last November. Beta 2 will be the last full beta phase before Microsoft releases Office 11 mid-year. As with Office XP in 2001, Microsoft will likely issue at least two release candidates before Office 11 goes gold.

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#1 McFly on 29 Jan 2003 - 17:43
AT LAST! Minesweeper at 10.20GHz! Actually, I'm still waiting for the 1.21-gigawatt CPU, with the Black & Decker "Mr. Fusion" power supply...I've been waiting since 1985 for it, dammit!
(2 replies) #2 Jerichohol on 29 Jan 2003 - 17:44
Screw Minesweeper. Imagine Solitare. See how fast the cards would fly then........ And the question. Why do we need such a fast processor?
#2.1 McFly on 29 Jan 2003 - 17:48
LOL yep, Solitaire's even better and will push that CPU to full extent of its transistors And imagine how fast Notepad will open!
#2.2 cq107 on 29 Jan 2003 - 21:29
[neoquote=#2.0 by Jerichohol]And the question. Why do we need such a fast processor?[/neoquote] If you were to decide the fate of the world about 100 years ago... we wouldn't even have TVs or AC now, let alone the " internet "
(2 replies) #3 vacs on 29 Jan 2003 - 17:45
Can I still play Day Of The Tentacle on that CPU? Or 4D Sports Driving? That's all I need
#3.1 Greenmuncher on 29 Jan 2003 - 17:48
lol day of the tentical was a good game... ever find the secret to play the original maniac mansion?
#3.2 Skyfrog on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:34
I used to have 4D sports driving. At the time I thought it was amazing. You might have to use mo'slo to play it on your 10GHz CPU though
#4 dismuter on 29 Jan 2003 - 17:59
Ok, that's quite fast.
#5 ramesees on 29 Jan 2003 - 18:02
Hmm so we'll have a tripling of max. clock speed in just under 3 years!! Wow, cool! Does anyone have a link to the most recent roadmap from Intel that shows these processors? Thanks
(1 reply) #6 Tobbe on 29 Jan 2003 - 18:39
Cool... I hope that the competitiors can keep up.
#6.1 Eldoen on 30 Jan 2003 - 04:59
Well if they keep the same sucky architecture that is the P4. it shouldn't be hard But it is more difficult to scale the current architecture that AMD is using beyond much of what it is now. I imagine that the x86-64 will have a short run while the transistion from 32 bit to 64 bit occures and a streamline 64 bit processor can be made in the future. With the multi terabyte drives comeing out in 2004, and the lack of support in 32 bit windows for a single drive beyond 2 terabypes. I imagine that will be the move in the future. Imagine home media networks where you can record your HD movies or dvd audio and distribute to your wireless devices in your home el

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#7 m0dm0 on 29 Jan 2003 - 19:00
yes, i would be interested in a recent roadmap of these processors as well m0.
(4 replies) #8 Q25 on 29 Jan 2003 - 19:00
If I remember correctly it used to be 10GHz in 2007. Then Intel CEO said the progress would probably be slower than they first expected. And that 10GHz might not come before 2010.. Now suddenly it's 2005. Sounds odd.. And to top it all off. MHz is far from all that matters.
#8.1 Eldoen on 29 Jan 2003 - 19:16
actually that was 12 gigs by 2007. And after 10 gigs there are some serious issues that will need to be addressed which may slow it down. Although lab work has shown that moores law may be able to continue until around 2012 possible out to 2020. BTW to maintain Moores law a processor in 2007 will have to have over 1 billion transistors. which may be part of the slow down. As a matter of fact the things that theya are starting to look at doing with that number of transistors is implementing dual and quad processors on the same chip. 64 bit processors about cover what most processing will need. (128 bit processors don't bring much more to the table except for VERY high end processing) For those that ask what would we do with this power. Hmm done any real time High Difinition encodeing/decoding lately?? it is outside the realm of the Office computer for sure. But Real Time Stategy games or even Role playing games where worlds are not static but evolve could use this power. from a gamer point of view. Video processing is about the last of the home use that can use the power, although I doubt much beyond a 5 gig processor would have any real effects. although the convergence of pc and the entertainment center may bring in new features that could use that power. I do agree that MHz is far from all that matters. that is why PCI Express, Sata 1, 2 and 3 SAS 1 and 2(which will align with sata 2 and 3) IEEE 1394 a and b, 802.11 a, b and g (and the newer Gigabit work) gigabit and 10 gigabit ethernet. all play an important part in the next few years. unfortantly PCI express is already outdate in version 1 before it even hits the computers. Memory will be a serious issue that holds back progress El El
#8.2 vetDazzla on 29 Jan 2003 - 19:27
[neoquote=#8.1 by Eldoen]Quality post by Eldoen.[/neoquote] Sweet post man, tonnes of information! Thanks for that
#8.3 Yvo on 29 Jan 2003 - 19:31
lets not forget hard drives. i believe that there will be a day when we will not use physical hard drives anymore but rather a storage form such as memory only in greater sizes. that day is coming soon and hopefully before 2005
#8.4 Skyfrog on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:37
[quote]Video processing is about the last of the home use that can use the power,[/quote] Actually 10GHz might be about the minimum system requirements of Longhorn when it is released.
(2 replies) #9 Tager on 29 Jan 2003 - 19:08
holy f'ing crap... by then, I should have the need to upgrade this clunky P!!! 600Mhz. Can you imagine that leap from 600 to 10Ghz?! crazy!
#9.1 Tobbe on 29 Jan 2003 - 19:59
[neoquote=#9.0 by Tager]holy f'ing crap... by then, I should have the need to upgrade this clunky P!!! 600Mhz. Can you imagine that leap from 600 to 10Ghz?! crazy! [/neoquote] Yeah! Wait for the 10GHz desktop computers.
#9.2 Eldoen on 29 Jan 2003 - 21:38
While it may seem like a big jump on paper it may not be in performance. Here is why. (and some linux people argue this another way) As the available power comes to be. the OS can really use it in some areas. Drawing the screen in 32 bit color moving windows. Multiprocessing and allowing for more processes. We already know that MS is looking at a min 1024x768 as a resolution for Avalon. While some of this will be graphic card issues there will still be alot of calculations going on behind the scenes. With convergences comeing along. and a DX based Presentation, (dx9 will be used to accelerate the UI in avalon) and a newer Video based platform, I can see where performance could be comparable to a system today. But what is presented will be so much more than what occurs on the OS today. el
(2 replies) #10 Solarix on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:11
thats seriously too fast wtf would u need anything faster than 4ghz anyways?
#10.1 xStainDx on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:19
same questiuon why do you need anything faster than 1, 2 or 3 gigahertz.. There is no answer to your question, because people always seem to ignore the answer anyway. They don't really care if they need it or not, its going to be developed and people will buy it.
#10.2 Crashless on 30 Jan 2003 - 18:25
When will people learn to stop making these kind of comments? It used to be unthinkable that the general public could ever need a computer, then impossible to use more than 256KB memory, yet here we are. As hardward advances, software programmers step up their coding to make use of the newly availble clockcycles and memory. People come up with new ideas about what they want to do with technology. This is never going to stop. As long as chipmakers advance their technology, (which they have to, in order to drive sales and stay in business) then programmers will come up with ways to use the available hardware. Granted, are mom and pop going to be able to use every clock cycle on their 10ghz computer, probably not, but they'll take comfort in knowing that their word processor only takes a microsecond to open, and that they can download their e-mail in just as much time. In 2005, or 10 or whenever this chip comes out, we'll be having this same damn discussion about how useless a 20ghz processor would be. But look at it this way, you'll probably be quoted in the future as a nother person who didn't have any vision.
#11 kairon on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:26
Wow, I really doubt AMD can pump a chip like this out in 2005, though. One thing where Intel needs to improve is its support of AMD's extensions to MMX (3DNow! namely) There is one instruction on AMD cpu's that can do the same task as its intel brother except in a LOT less clock cycles, that is FEMMS, (something empty mmx state), i just wish Intel would support these speeded up versions!
(2 replies) #12 kairon on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:30
One more thing, who else thinks these Nehalem's could be the Pentium 5?It seems like such a good performance boost which would go great with a new Pentium series of processors, to boost sales. Or maybe they'll stop the Pentium name altogether and go with something else (I doubt this since Pentium is a well-known name)
#12.1 Skyfrog on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:41
I always thought that Pentium 5 would sound kind of redundant.
#12.2 Jerichohol on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:46
Pentium X5
#13 Mav Phoenix on 29 Jan 2003 - 20:58
And I was thinking about building a dual processor system by the summer....hmm now I might have to hold out a bit longer with my PIII 700.
(3 replies) #14 TranceSphere on 29 Jan 2003 - 21:00
kairon, the prescot is the pentium 5
#14.1 vacs on 29 Jan 2003 - 21:53
no, the Prescott is still a P4! The 0.65micron dieshrink in 2004 will probably also be called P4 because it's all the same architecture...
#14.2 dismuter on 30 Jan 2003 - 00:52
This is not a valid point because the Pentium 3 has the same architecture as Pentium 2.
#14.3 xStainDx on 30 Jan 2003 - 03:45
Prescott with be Pentium 4's in 90nm w/ 800MHz FSB. Tejas With be Pentium4's in 90nm. with 1066Mhz. FSB. Nehalem with be Pentium4 in 65nm with 1200Mhz, FSB, All According to this...
#15 DrOmango on 29 Jan 2003 - 22:29
amazing... cant wait
#16 nomis_nehc on 30 Jan 2003 - 00:34
maybe then we don't have to purchase 400 dollar vid cards. just make cpu do all the work. hahaha
(1 reply) #17 kioria on 30 Jan 2003 - 10:22
the problem is, will it really come out in 2005? sick'n'tired of these bullshit, "marketing aid", adverts. about time they'd realise that, IT revolves around what there, not what's to come.
#17.1 Eldoen on 30 Jan 2003 - 19:36
kioria, Actually IT usually runs on technology that is 2 to 3 years behind what there is beyond of what there is to come. Unfortantly in the office enviroment, PC's are getting to the point that updateing can take 3 to 5 years instead of the 3 years as in the past, and even some computers can go for up to 5 to 8 years. Depending on what type of work is being done and the budget for it. Data entry work for instance doesn't need a 1 gig system let alone a 3 gig or a 4 gig system. Eventually they will work to those systems. but that will be over time. One thing to remember, in this industry. Todays Technology will be tomorrows low end budget system in about a year. El
#18 mcnelson on 30 Jan 2003 - 23:08
I have a use for a chip that fast - I'm working on a simulation of an infinite amount of monkeys typing literature for eternity, to see if they really can pump out the collected works of Shakespeare. All I need is a 10ghz CPU.....

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